Episode 109 – Unstoppable Change Maker with Rosalind Panda

Talk about being unstoppable, wait until you hear our episode with Rosalind Panda. Rosalind lived her first 24 years in India. Her parents by any standard encouraged her to be creative, innovative, and unstoppable.

She moved to the United States after receiving degrees in Computer Science and Technology while in India. She went back to school to, as she put it, “refresh her computer knowledge”. Since leaving college Rosalind has formed a number of companies dealing with all aspects of creativity in a variety of industries including computer technology and construction.

On top of everything else Rosalind spends, as she says, about 40% of her time being creative as an artist producing mainly oil paintings. Even this work began for her as a child encouraged by her parents. She also is an author as you will learn.

As you will see, she keeps busy and totally enjoys life and all she does. She wants to be remembered as someone who is creative and helps humanity. She does this for sure!

About the Guest:

Rosalind Panda as a Thought leader, Visionary and Change maker is here to inspire others to do what inspires them so that all of us together can make this world a better place. She lives a life with Purpose and optimism serving mankind and benefitting the World through the fundamentals elements of life e.g. Art, Technology, Creative design thinking and Innovation. She is the CEO and Founder of Rosalind Business Group LLC. CEO of Rosalind IT Services, Founder of Rosalind Arts, CEO of Rosalind Constructions, and Founder of ROVA Token. She is a technology Innovator, fine art artist, public Speaker, Author, and influencer. Additionally, she is in the board of members in the non profit organization called River Art Works.
She is the Influencer in International Association of Women Organization empowering, encouraging and impacting others’ lives. She believes in building a legacy, acting towards her vision, serving the humanity, benefiting the human kind through her contributions and giving back to the community.

Ms. Rosalind as the CEO of Rosalind IT Services company established in 2019 works with Clients in building their website design, development, support and upgrade specializing in every industry and in every technology. Her company is a top-notch IT consulting organization across the world, IT staffing, and Recruitment service provider in the United States of America. Her IT Services company specializes in web 2.0 technologies for e.g. Web and Mobile application development and helping clients arounds the world. It is a pioneer in blockchain development.

As the Founder of Rosalind Arts Gallery and a well-known global fine art artist living in New York, she is a highly versatile creator with pieces in the realms of abstract, landscape, impressionistic and contemporary, modern. Each of her paintings speaks the language of love towards humanity, inner peace, world peace, Positivity, enthusiasm, and Optimism in life.

In addition to her stellar efforts in this capacity, she is serving as the CEO of Rosalind Constructions between 2020 and 2021, with which she utilized CAD-based 3D modeling technology to offer construction companies and architecture firms the tools to visualize complete projects.

Newly, into her business space, she added a cryptocurrency called “ROVA” Token. With the base of ROVA, she is building the World’s very first utility-based eco-system that pays back to humanity where it spends.
For her Incredible Contribution in the community and across the World in the field of Art, Technology Innovation and Creative Design thinking Rosalind Panda/Rosalind Business Group LLC is featured in New York weekly, Yahoo Finance, UK Herald Tribune, American Finance Tribune, CEO weekly, LA Wire, US News, Digital Journal, Yahoo news, Forbes, New York Weekly, Artist Weekly, NY Voyage, Yahoo Finance, Digital Journal, Fox news, Global Reporter Journal, US National Times, CNBC, NBC, ABC news, CBS, The US News, az central, NY WIRE, LA WIRE, NEWS NET

How to Connect with Rosalind:

Facebook url: https://www.facebook.com/rosalindpanda/
LinkedIn url: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rosalindpanda/
Instagram: rosalindpanda5
Twitter: rosajublee
TikTok: rosalindpanda1

About the Host:
Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog.

Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children’s Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association’s 2012 Hero Dog Awards.

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Transcription Notes

Michael Hingson  00:00
Access Cast and accessiBe Initiative presents Unstoppable Mindset. The podcast where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Hi, I’m Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that’s a c c e s s i  capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we’re happy to meet you and to have you here with us.
 
Michael Hingson  01:21
Hi, and welcome once again to unstoppable mindset. Glad you’re here. Right I really appreciate you coming along with us and joining us. Every time we do an episode for this journey. Today we get to meet and work with and talk to Rosalind Panda. And Rosalind is a person who has got a very diverse background has started a number of companies has continued to make them successful is very involved in art. And I’m not going to tell you a whole lot because she will. She knows her subject better than I do. So thanks very much for being here. We really appreciate you coming on unstoppable mindset.
 
Rosalind Panda  02:00
Thank you so much, Michael, for the wonderful, warm welcome. I’m glad to be here.
 
Michael Hingson  02:06
Well, why don’t we start as I love to do and ask that you tell me a little bit about you growing up and so on, where you’re from what you did, as a child and all those memorable things that we should know about on the podcast?
 
Rosalind Panda  02:21
Yeah, absolutely. So I think so. So let’s start with how I, where I’m coming from, right. So I’m originally from India. And until I’m 2024, I said that I finished my studies, and have visited many places, many cities out there to gain knowledge and having the perspective of having diversity in different states, and through different languages, clothing, and the way of just living, living, right. And then when I am after 24, I came to United States, I continued my studies here as well in computer science. And after due to jobs and projects, I moved around cities to cities. And again continued my journey through gaining experience, understanding the diversity, understanding different culture, people, and the people who are coming from different different countries, bringing their wonderful perspective. So that’s how I where I am today. And I’m still learning about humanity. And my greatest passion that I love, in my everyday to real life is serving humanity, because that’s my love towards humanity that I learned from life and I would love to continue that as I go.
 
Michael Hingson  03:59
So, when you were growing up in India, you said you visited a lot of cities, did you visit other places outside of India or just around India?
 
Rosalind Panda  04:06
When I was in India, yes, only the cities in different states in India itself is very big. Also, it is a big compared to compared to when things change in in different state. Right away the language changes and you feel like you’re a foreigner in a foreign country altogether. And the food is different. The culture, the language is different, the way the other states are living that is totally different. So I just when they’re in different states, I moved around. Yeah, well, I was there.
 
Michael Hingson  04:41
When you go from state to state in India, and now you go from state to state in the United States. Do you find that there’s as much cultural difference between states in the US as there was an India or not so much.
 
Rosalind Panda  04:59
I feel as though have, for example, in last month, I visited to Las Vegas, I went to Arizona. So I see the difference. When it comes to the culture also the the density of people, for example, in Arizona, there are a lot of people from Mexico. So they’re bringing that Spanish culture, you will see a lot of like the food is changing a bit. And also the weather, due to the weather, the businesses around that place the food around that place. It’s kind of different, but not too much, because the language stays still stays the same. So on only the culture and food changes, but the length because the language stays the same. You I don’t feel a lot of difference in there. And also when I went to Dallas, yeah, there is another state I went to Dallas last month as well. It’s a bit different. You see the cowboy, that culture right, though, that is coming. So southern culture that is a bit different than music, the food changes to certain extent, but not too much. So but still there is like diversity around which I enjoy thoroughly.
 
Michael Hingson  06:26
It sounds like differences are a little bit more dramatic in India, especially if language and so on is different from one place to another. Yeah, absolutely. Yes. That’s true. Yeah. So you came to the United States and you’re, you’re traveling around him. And so where do you live?
 
Rosalind Panda  06:47
Staten Island, New York.
 
Michael Hingson  06:49
You are in Staten Island. So have you been to California?
 
Rosalind Panda  06:53
Yeah, I was in California for seven years. Since 2004. Till 2011. I was in California. I did my studies over there and I stayed around ample amount of time, like seven years is a lot. Yeah,
 
Michael Hingson  07:10
it is. So where were you in California.
 
Rosalind Panda  07:15
I was in Mountain View, and Fremont and Union Station. And also the Bay Area. quite a quite a few. Like Barry. I was there. I enjoyed it as well like pretty pretty close to San Francisco.
 
Michael Hingson  07:32
Yeah. What did you study?
 
Rosalind Panda  07:36
I started in Foothill College. It’s a college which was nearby my when I was living, there was De Anza as well San Jose, which is on those boats are coming under centers in university. So I did some few like, completed my associates degree over there, because I have my bachelor’s degree from India. So I can end my postgraduate as well from India. I just wanted to refresh my my education, the way of how people are studying here just went to have some extra knowledge about Computer Information System how, how how people are adapting to this, the students are learning. And also I did some really fun classes. During my college for example, swimming. I didn’t know swimming before. I was so scared of water. I thought about I thought about overcoming my fear, which is swimming. So I finished my swimming lesson now. I’m pretty good swimmer. In three months, I landed. I felt so good. They’re like pre a few other classes like music class. And also I learned taekwondo. I did my martial art kickboxing, Taekwondo and California, which was so much fun. So enjoy it thoroughly. The time I lived there.
 
Michael Hingson  09:02
You degrees from India, they were in computer science.
 
Rosalind Panda  09:05
Yeah, they’re in computer science, and all computer application system and postgraduate as well. In computer application.
 
Michael Hingson  09:15
Did you get a master’s degree out of the postgraduate work?
 
Rosalind Panda  09:19
i Yeah, it is the equivalent to Master’s degree.
 
Michael Hingson  09:22
Master’s degree. Yep. Yeah. And here you did your AAA degree. Did you go beyond that? Or just get the AAA to kind of see how things were and sort of refresh?
 
Rosalind Panda  09:34
Just to refresh? Exactly. Just to refresh it as degree Associate in Science? Yeah. Because I didn’t have to do a lot of studies because I had already done those while I was in India. So just to refresh my memory, there was a gap of, I believe, five to six years between when I finished my studies and here I started so I just thought about bridging that gap. been starting my GED care career crush? Yeah. Yeah,
 
Michael Hingson  10:04
you piqued my interest in talking about swimming and being afraid of water. Tell me more about that. How did you overcome it? Or why did you decide to overcome your fear of water and, and get into to being a swimmer?
 
Rosalind Panda  10:18
Yeah, so that’s a really fun story. When I was a kid, during summer vacation, I was when I was in school, during summer vacation, we used to come with my parents to the village like our village, and there was a pond. There are many ponds in our village. So normally we go and have bath in the pond in summer, I was so afraid of water, and we had River as well. But I was so so scared that I wouldn’t go too deep into the pond. Because I think, oh my god, what will be there inside though? There will be rocks, and you can see it was pretty deep. So somehow, I had a little fear about what is there in the water, because I can’t see much. And also, my mind doesn’t work when I’m in water. So it was I was pretty pretty, like I couldn’t survive while I was in water. But what my dad did, he was there was everybody family member, they were gather, and they were just doing their thing. They were taking a bath and having fun. But dad wanted me to swim. So what he did is he just put me into the water. And he thought I’m gonna start swimming. I was it was like no lead. I don’t know, swimming. Water.
 
Michael Hingson  11:53
So that didn’t help your attitude about water at all, did it? No, not
 
Rosalind Panda  11:57
at all. Because the he was thinking, swimming is pretty intuitive. And as soon as somebody gets into the water, they will just know how to survive by making hand or leg movement, which was not pretty intuitive, because I was not open to that at all. So I heard, I had that fear in me. And when I saw I thought I’m never going to be able to swim when it comes to water. And when I came to the United States in California, when I was staying in a apartment, we had a swimming pool as well. I had always swimming pools, and I started going to taekwondo class, the kickboxing class, I used to go to my apartment gym and doing workout every day as well and practice my movements in Taekwondo and learning the things. So while doing those martial arts and kickboxing, I created that resilience and having that full, full determination about overcoming the fear or how practice makes you a do and overcome your fear. Right. So while when I went to school, I saw the swimming pool, it’s a really nice swimming pool. And I saw people are learning swimming. So I thought about how about I also learned swimming and overcome my fear. So there were some extra, I believe, a one unit or two unit class, it was there for three months. So I took it I learned. I also played tennis that time. I did pull body flexibility, class, also yoga and music class. And apart from that there was a swimming class. So I had an instructor. I said, Hey, man, I’m pretty scared of water. But I want to really learn. And by the time we are done with the swimming class, this sentence, it is always roaming around my mind that I’m scared of water. It should not be there. In case in case there is a situation when I’m inside the water, I should be able to know doesn’t matter if it is a pond, if it is a river, it is an ocean. Instead of my mind going blackout. I should be able to know what to do, at least for certain period of time, I should be able to survive. I’m not talking about ocean. But still, if I’m in the ocean, I should be able to know how to control my breathing and not totally blank out when I’m in the water. So my teacher understand calm and instructor understood about it and he said, I promise that didn’t happen. And yours you I will not be scared of water anymore. Since I was very, very confident I was fully determined. I at least made sure that when I’m in the Water is somebody is watching me, and not letting me drown for sure. So with that assurance, I just started learning every day with full determination and full dedication. And in few days, I was so good at it, I was like I was with, with the practice and determination, I started doing my freestyle, as well as the backstroke, I was able to float on my back for the whole 5050 meter swimming pool. And it was I was ecstatic. I was so happy that there is nothing in my life anymore, that I can say I’m scared of, because that was the only thing, though what if it was a practical thing.
 
Michael Hingson  15:50
What is what is interesting, though, is that you made the choice not to be afraid and you whether you totally did it with intent you, you created an environment where you could eliminate the fear, you told your instructor about it, and your instructor, then helped but you made the choice not to be afraid. We did an episode earlier this year was actually on April 13, was our 29th show, we interviewed a gentleman named Matt rock and Matt swims every day or every other day in the Pacific Ocean, off of Dana Point in Southern California. And he talks about his fear, not of swimming, but when he first decided to try to swim in the winter, when it was much colder water, like 55 degrees Fahrenheit in the water. And Matt doesn’t use a wetsuit. And he talked about being afraid and again, made the decision, although it was a little bit scary, but he made the decision to jump in the water when he got really close to it. And then within a couple of seconds, he was used to the water and everything was fine. But again, it’s a choice. And when he found out that there was really no great reason to be afraid of the water simply because it was cold or for you. You made a decision not to free afraid of the water just because you go in the water and you can sink and bring yourself up and so on. That’s really what it’s all about, isn’t it?
 
Rosalind Panda  17:23
Yeah, absolutely. Because I believe that our mind is everything. And when we decide something in our mind, the mind doesn’t control us anymore. But it learns it listens to us, like, okay, she wants to do it. And I don’t have any control or fear in it. But rather I should just cooperate. Right? So that’s what happens when your intention, your determination overpowers your mind. Because mind can play so many games of fears and make you scared of anything which does not even exist. So I believe in that. And yeah, here I am. Yeah.
 
Michael Hingson  18:07
Okay, so you have done a lot of studying. And you’ve learned a lot. What did you do with all that knowledge? And did you work while you were studying? Like when you came to the US? Or did you just study or tell us a little bit more about kind of when you got here and went to school and what all you did?
 
Rosalind Panda  18:30
Yeah, so when I went to my school, college, right, and now Foothill College in California. I was, I was so I would say that I was very fascinated by all the classes and the teachers I heard really good teachers. They were, they were coming from different countries like England, and Euro. Australia. Today is a fun college because we in our college there were I believe there are more than 70 countries the students are coming from. So I saw a beautiful acceptance, a beautiful acceptance in everybody and encouragement, which was extremely fun for me. Because I had friends from Mongolia, my best friend, one of my best friend from Brazil, from India from the United States. So I made really wonderful friends were very kind and fun loving and they were approaching me and said Rosalynn will you be our my best friend, but that’s how they were so much fun. So it was cool to experience that from from a symbol, you know, innocence that we have as human being when somebody comes and opens up towards you and helps you throughout their journey and makes it even more fun and adventures. So while I was in school, I was also helping my fellow other students learning. So they were struggling in math. And few other classes English, yes. So to write their essays or help them understand there were a few classes, which was hard, like critical thinking and writing. So we had to analyze some movies, right? What were our analysis about the movie, and it was pretty, pretty cool, how the teacher were giving those assignments, and it was helping us think through and express ourselves. That was helping my friends who were coming from different countries, and they were not pretty fluent in English and thinking to and expressing themselves. So I was helping them express, I was helping them, making sure that they were also doing their excellent, their best. You know, so, math, and English, I was hoping others to do as well. And also, while doing the swimming class, also, one person was totally scared of swimming. She, I think she was about she was, she gave up in three days. She said, No, I cannot do this. I am, I am losing my, I’m losing my patience with this. I’m so scared of water. And I cannot do this, she was about to give up. I kept telling her now just just just be patient and go through the process. Trust the process, there is this instructor, she is not letting you drown at all. So and I’m here also, I was because we both were swimming. So when she was feeling like she was drowning, I was getting her hair up. So that was pretty fun. That while it gave me a wonderful lesson in my life as well, while you do your part, you can help others survive and do their best as well.
 
Michael Hingson  22:14
So tell her that you were afraid of water. Yeah,
 
Rosalind Panda  22:17
we started at the same point, she clearly knows that, that I was so scared of water. But in third day, I started having my confidence in myself. But she was literally giving up. But then I kept her going. And she, by the time we finished, she was at a point that she was not afraid of any water anymore. But she she needed more practice. She was a little weak. So she was not that strong, determined, or strong willed. So but I don’t know what happened after that. But at least she survived at that time. So those are fun times that we really had. Also the food. They were some some some events in our school that was happening around every year, where all the every cuisine, right, some somebody’s coming from fizzy, somebody’s coming from China, Thailand, Korean, Indian, American, Brazilian, all the food everybody was specializing in and they will get some food, their authentic food. And we will have in the event those food displayed. And we will go to every stall one by one and try those foods and experience that. Even if we’re not going to the country, by ourselves in person. But by having the food and talking to them and how it’s made. What are the ingredients to interact with those people who are coming from those countries? It was it was excellent to accept everybody and learn everybody’s culture. And you know, to feel more human, not just live in your own bubble, say to his to his excellent experience while I was in school, always vulnerable.
 
Michael Hingson  24:10
So where are you when you were in school? Did you work or did how did you support going to school and all that?
 
Rosalind Panda  24:16
So yeah, I was working. I was doing my computer science, some of the projects as well. I was tutoring some kids who were preparing for math competitive exam. So I was really putting a lot of effort into helping others, like kids who are learning math and computer science projects. Also I was doing I was a math instructor in my school as well. Helping others to in their their classes, which when they are struggling, so that those all those projects I did when I was at school
 
Michael Hingson  24:58
so You were at school and you finally got your Associate of Science degree, then what did you do?
 
Rosalind Panda  25:07
I moved from there to different cities to do. So I started getting projects in different cities like Boston, I came on a project. And after that project was finished, I moved to other cities like Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Washington, and Austin, Texas, a lot of projects I did in different cities. So I have moved around, I believe, seven to eight cities after my schooling. Yeah.
 
Michael Hingson  25:38
Well, how did people learn about you that they asked you to come and deal with different projects, and so on.
 
Rosalind Panda  25:45
I’m a believer, then you’ll get a software, software development degree. And you have the platforms like dice CareerBuilder, monster, and you’re looking for good projects, and depending on what skill sets you have. And so I was approached, with a lot of projects till now as well. If you learn a good skill set, and you keep, like adapting I was keep, I was always adapting to new technologies, starting from web to 1.0, where we’re just dealing with static websites. But as in my era, already 2.0 was introduced. So I was fully learning the new frameworks, the the all the software, like what do you call libraries that we’re going to be using with that web application development and software development. So I’m getting those projects based on my skill sets, which were totally in demand. And a lot of big companies, fortune 500 companies, they wanted good, skilled, and people. And also I’m very proactive about moving on, and having a good career learning good things and helping clients helping the organization do well, when whatever projects they are trying to do. So it just kept kept me moving.
 
Michael Hingson  27:17
When you were doing a lot of that coding and dealing with people helping them create whether web applications or websites, did you ever get involved much with accessibility and dealing with making websites available for persons with disabilities?
 
Rosalind Panda  27:34
Absolutely, because a lot of our applications when they’re fully mature, and we’re using the advanced technology for billions of users to use at a time, we’re depending on for enhancing the security, scalability, the user friendly usability and accessibility, because the more and more people are using technology, every genre every from every category of people started using it. So once the application is mature, accessibility was a pretty heavy department that everybody was stressing on. So I was involved in making accessible like healthcare projects, as well as banking applications, some of the insurance applications which the accessible disabled people are using. So we definitely I was involved in those projects as well.
 
Michael Hingson  28:37
If I understand what you’re describing, you’re saying that the applications would would be created. And then other things were accomplished, such as making the applications accessible or did accessible of the start right from the outset of the application,
 
Rosalind Panda  28:55
the accessibility was also parallely being done, while the application is already being used. We had to use certain libraries and certain code standards, Wk C standards, there are certain libraries to use so that the screen reader can read those HTML code, or all the protocol, the web, the languages, for the screen reader. So as as as HTML five became more semantic, so we wanted to, on top of that, to make the applications accessible, we’re implementing the libraries to make it so
 
Michael Hingson  29:39
why is it that we see so many websites today, and also a lot of applications that are still not at all accessible? There? There so many examples one can find, both with websites in just a variety of applications I mean, even voting, although voting electronic likely isn’t totally accepted anyway. But why is it that we find a lot of resistance or a lot of lack of attention to making accessibility an integral part of all of that.
 
Rosalind Panda  30:12
And now, the organization’s it depends on the culture and the budget they allocate for every project, they maybe they are not stressing on making it accessible. Because every application that is built, a lot of it goes through always user testing, right? User Acceptance Testing, there is a certain number of people, they will do the testing in production environment, and they constantly get user input from the real time user, their customers to make the application even better, where the users are facing challenges. They implement more creative design thinking towards what they what they develop. But it depends always on the organization itself, stressing on considering those points and thinking about the category of people who really want to use the application, but due to it is not accessible, they have to take other people’s help, rather than being self sufficient to use application. I believe that’s a drawback in the organization, if they’re not using those, and making it accessible for those customers, because that’s very, very important to do. So.
 
Michael Hingson  31:39
Part of the problem, it seems to me also is that if we would make accessibility a part of the native development and make it so that you can’t create, without including access, that would help but for example, the people who make tools that people use to create websites, don’t have anything in those tools that mandate accessibility, even though it’s pretty well defined today, for example, with the internet, Web Content Accessibility Guidelines, 2.1, soon to be three Oh, and so on. But the people who create the tools that build websites, don’t have any specific requirements within the tools that says, not publishing the website till it’s fully accessible and conforms with the guidelines. Yeah, so native access doesn’t happen.
 
Rosalind Panda  32:39
Yeah, no, I agree. Because the frameworks that are being implemented, they focus on internationalization. But accessibility is totally so different libraries and standard all together, that the framework don’t consider having that. But I believe it’s a very, very, very crucial part essential part to have this included as well, so that nobody can neglect or ignore those scenarios as well. But it’s it should be an essential part to be considered, while making the application for normal user, as well as ready for the accessible disabled people as well.
 
Michael Hingson  33:23
Yeah. Basically, the way to probably say it best is accessibility, or what I prefer to say, as inclusion should be part of the cost of doing business, and it just isn’t yet for everyone.
 
Rosalind Panda  33:35
Yeah, absolutely. But I believe that there is certain challenges as well. Because when you try to make application accessible, and using those library and standard, there will be certain areas, which need, I believe, a lot more expertise, I would say, but I believe a lot of organizations are facing challenges while doing it. Because even if we try to make it fully accessible, but every applications functionality, their behavior is different. So sometimes the application become extremely complicated or complex, while they think now we don’t want to make it accessible because it’s not. It’s not that simple. For somebody, the screen reader to read everything it might not be so I believe in future, those challenges should be overcome. And we should be thinking about promise solution oriented approach and inclusion, as you mentioned, then those challenges will be overcome day by day. What a
 
Michael Hingson  34:43
lot of the challenges are more perceived than actual though and I think that that’s the issue is that people think things are perhaps harder than they need to be. But it is a process and and hopefully, we’ll also find more schools include teaching about access and teaching people to make access and inclusion part of what they do as their students so that they will then go out and automatically do when they graduate and go out into the world as as workers.
 
Rosalind Panda  35:17
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. As you said, human beings are very intelligent they have, they’re given the brain right to think and find a solution. And with that specific determination and approach, if we think through and try to find that solution, then we can definitely find find, go somewhere with you, instead of just giving up and thinking about, no, it’s pretty difficult, we don’t want to do this. And those organizations, every organization, I believe they should allocate, and the project to make their application accessible, that will, that will be like icing on the cake, you’re making your application accessible to everyone, which is absolutely wonderful, you know, that will truly appreciate that, that kind of approach from organizations
 
Michael Hingson  36:15
will tell me more about you, you. So you went to work. And along the way, you became certainly a thought leader or a technology innovator and you went into art. Tell me about that, if you would.
 
Rosalind Panda  36:30
Absolutely. Yeah. So I will start with my my childhood time, when we are born with I believe we are all born with creativity, as a tool inside us, the challenge becomes when we don’t identify it, right, we just think, Oh, we are not at stake. So I believe and then we start comparing with each other and not nurturing that inside us. Which is opposite in my case, because I have been brought up in a very encouraging family, my parents, my dad and mom, they’re extremely encouraging and they they could recognize they could identify that when we give it when we create that environment for for our children, then and also make them understand what they can do with their time, what they can do with their brain, their developing brain, their focus their concentration, then. So I was I was heavily encouraged from a poor my childhood, I was learning I was studying in a school, also where the environment was extremely encouraging. And they were focusing on extracurricular activities, for example, focusing on nurturing your creativity, writing points, learning music, using your time to express on certain mediums like pencil sketches, drawings, paintings, and also game we’re playing games, outside outdoor activities, and acting. Acting also I was pretty pretty much open to every form of creativity a human being can do. And while after school when I come from in my house, I love to paint that time. Because that that is the time I can express myself it’s a my calm, calm time, right? We express we think about it, and I love colors. So I love to see what I’m creating. So I play outside as well and I have to come back, I create an AI that use pay balance throughout the day. Before I do my homework. I also learn music, I create music, I give lyrics and music and actually harmonium as well and bright points as well I think in front of the whole crowd, my village my school and the whole city so this is all part of my creativity and art is one of them, which I always not sure that to the max. I was participating in many drawing competitions painting exhibitions as well. While I was in school, and my my school my teachers and my parents were having me too. Were giving me those platforms and telling me that no we will create that platform per euros length where you can excel and make us proud now it’s not just a as a kid we can understand as Oh, you’re making your school proud or your parents proud, but really, essentially, you’re truly getting yourself up, you’re getting your your own inner creator encouraged more and more, so that it becomes a habit when we land into our adulthood. So that’s what happened. I carried out all my habits, what I was doing since my childhood, to my adulthood as well. And as soon as I could afford my canvases, my colors, my oil colors and my time, I just became, like, professionally, I create started creating since last, like I believe for more than four, around 14 years or so I have been creating them professionally. And I loved the oil, medium oil colors on Canvas the best so far. Because like the oil color, the expression, the textures, that comes out, it’s out of the world. For me, I believe I can express in those, but I can also do to pencil sketches, watercolor, acrylic, sketch, anything you give me I can create those, for all color is the best one that I do as of now. And when I’m creating art, my purpose behind why I’m creating the bigger purpose behind it. I believe the underlying message that I put in all my paintings are love towards humanity, inner peace, world peace, optimism, and positivity. I believe those are really crucial and foundational principles in human life. Those elements, we those are indispensable in human life. So I put those in my paintings, I also write points around them, so that people can, really because words are good to the soul. So I’ll always believe if I’m creating something wonderful, it’s we are pasting our eyes. But also we’re feeding our soul. We are feeding our weeks I am expressing my heart and soul when I’m creating. But it’s it’s amazing, such a wonderful energy to the viewer, or the reader through my points when they’re reading it and connecting my feelings, which I’m expressing through the points and on Canvas. So it’s a beautiful way of expression and consumption conception, and also intake for the viewer.
 
Michael Hingson  42:48
Is that your work today? Or? Well, what what do you do for work? And how does all that fit into it?
 
Rosalind Panda  42:54
I do work otherwise, I’m a professional artist. And as well as I am a business owner where I help clients with software development with any technology, every technology, web 2.0, as well as I do crypto, I’m the founder of the world’s first utility based crypto ecosystem robot token. So building those applications as well for to serve the mankind. So I’m pulling a technology person and I believe in innovation. So that’s where all my time and energy also go. I have so many clients as well, throughout my day in their web application development as well. Yeah.
 
Michael Hingson  43:39
So you do a lot of web development and web work and so on. Is that kind of where you focus most of your time? Or what do you do most of
 
Rosalind Panda  43:48
I do, as I mentioned, like software development, I do the most and also out it’s kind of 60 4060 software, and then party 30 is all the creative things about it. Technology also I put my creativity and when we’re building, I’m thinking about the creative ways to coming up with a solution to the clients challenges that are facing. So a new implementation any defects that are arising the applications, I focus on those as well as creating art and writing poems for people. And also I have construction business Roseland constructions is another business I that I also handle and Roma token, which is as I mentioned, that is the world’s first crypto based ecosystem. I also put my time into creating those as well.
 
Michael Hingson  44:44
So, what what is Rosalynn panda construction all about?
 
Rosalind Panda  44:48
Rosaline construction company is all about steel detailing, architectural designing, interior designing. So those are the spurts of resilient construction syndrome expanding?
 
Michael Hingson  45:05
Uh huh. So you you’re doing this, you’re mainly in the designing part of construction, which again gets back to creativity, doesn’t it?
 
Rosalind Panda  45:13
Exactly, exactly. All my businesses are revolving around creativity. I, I just love being creative in all my areas. Yeah.
 
Michael Hingson  45:24
So you use CAD systems, I believe and would expect in your construction work?
 
Rosalind Panda  45:31
Yeah, we have, we have certain now like certified people as well. It’s not like I am doing directly, right. So I am the CEO, I have my team as well to take care of those days use certain tools and to take care of those specific elements like steel detailing and construction business. It’s expanding. And my team is also growing. So there’s a lot more to come in future. Yeah.
 
Michael Hingson  46:01
I started a company back in 1985, when I needed to, because I couldn’t find a job. And we sold some of the first PC based CAD system. So we use AutoCAD and another one called vs cat, although AutoCAD has become the most famous one and the most widely known, I think, in the in the cat world, we had some other CAD systems. But it was right at the beginning of when people started to recognize that CAD actually could allow someone to be just as creative. Do it in a fraction of the time and still then go on and do more work and get more jobs and hopefully make more money and support their business.
 
Rosalind Panda  46:44
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that’s absolutely right.
 
Michael Hingson  46:49
Yeah, CAD does not stifle or limit your creativity. It gives you another way, in a lot of ways a more effective way to, to, to show it.
 
Rosalind Panda  47:00
Yeah, exactly. You can customize it, you can now use your creativity. And what do you want on top of it, just a basic tool that you can definitely incorporate your creativity to do so.
 
Michael Hingson  47:15
Right? So you’re doing a lot of different things, needless to say? And does does there ever happen to be spillover or do things get combined together? You’re doing artwork and in any way? Does that get to spill over into your other companies and so on? Or are they really separate?
 
Rosalind Panda  47:38
I believe, as I said that it’s a common element where my creativity flows, right? It all my all my businesses are revolving around creativity. I also write books. I have my latest book, I co authored a book called powerful female immigrant, about 24 powerful immigrant women who are making a difference. Despite of the surmountable odds they have faced in life, and there is another book just got launched, which is called Lead self become the leader, which is by me, which is 10 foundational principles to live your life. So that’s the book just got launched last week on 12th November. So that is be pretty, like it will be available in few days in Amazon. It’s already in the process. And I also speak, I’m a speaker as well, I speak on public platform stages, podcasts. So I believe it’s not a spillover, but it’s it’s a different angle of my my personality. What makes me as a whole song. And I believe in holistic, fulfillment as a human being, rather than just being being one directional. I become diverse, I let my imagination I flow into different angles of me, and making me who I am. It’s part of my personality, I let it flow I unleash my imagination, my creativity. When it tries to flow on the canvas, I do through art, what I’m trying to do through words, I write poems, and write a book and what I’m trying to express through my words, I speak on stages and help other players empowering others inspiring them and so that they can do and they can be inspired and empowered to do what they love to do. They can be more of what they want to be. And while in doing the software development, I let my creativity my solution oriented mind, my creative design thinking to in the development I have the applications. So that because I know that the main purpose of letting my creative into different directions is to serve humanity. The intention behind what I do is to serve humanity. So it’s going to solve so many users, so many customers and the end, that it gives me that pleasure and that driving force to do so. I’m not just coming up with a solution to do for myself. That’s, of course, it’s serving me because I’m nourishing my passion, my intentions, my, my day to day activities, for sure. But the end goal, the intention behind it is about about the people about the humanity, of what we are helping what I’m helping through my creativity. So I let it
 
Michael Hingson  50:55
be you. How do you as you’re being creative, keep from getting a mental block that blocks being creative? How do you keep going, you know, writers oftentimes talk about getting writer’s block, and they can’t move forward and, and so on. You sound like that doesn’t happen to you. Why is that?
 
Rosalind Panda  51:14
Why is that because, as I mentioned, when we become unidirectional, and just go in one direction, sometimes we feel stuck, because we’re not thinking around the edges. And that time, we can take a small break and come out, come up with a fresh mind to move on. Because remember, when to get a momentum in any of our actions, sometimes, we need to take two steps backward. And to come forward with a greater force, or a pool momentum, like the trampoline effect, if you want to jump higher, you, you know that you have to go down in the trampoline to too little beneath, like little below the surface as well. So that’s how the mental block happens when we think as if we’re really stuck. But we change our perspective, and give us a small break about thinking, Okay, I’m not able to come up with the idea right? Now, how about, just let me take a walk. Or let me just get away, go go away from this thing, what I’m trying to do, in few minutes, I’ll be coming back with a fresh mind. And it comes, it really comes. So that’s when we have to have our patience with ourselves. To have understanding about how creativity really flows. Do we have to have that understanding? Some so many people call it procrastination. But it is not really procrastination, if you know the story of Leonardo da Vinci, you’re the artist who were in the history, they used to do so many things at a time, and they will be coming back to what they’re creating a project. If they’re not really procrastinating, it’s rather, they are they know that if they’re working on a big project or something, then sometimes the mind has to think from my perspective, as totally external person, not the person who is creating that other person who is reading. So we have to switch our paradigm switch our prospective, then only the blog, which gets created in the mind, that goes away. For example, if I go ahead, so for example, I shall write if, when a chef is cooking, and when he’s cooking, he’s gonna appreciate his food, he’s gonna be like, Oh, this is tasty, because he’s creating it. But if he changes his perspective, and thinks about from a primary customer point of view, or the person who is eating, then he he will be giving a better feedback on that. He can think oh, yeah, my I might need to improve this food a little bit. Because when I’m thinking about it, like a creator, I am appreciating everything. But I’m not thinking from the user perspective, the the person who is eating. So that’s how switching the perspective changes the game for me and the people who are having the block blockers in their mind as well.
 
Michael Hingson  54:43
It’s all about letting your inner mind take over and not stressing about it. And that’s what I thought you would say and that’s really what it’s all about is the blocks are things that we create ourselves. So you have written and you know, exemplify leadership in a lot of ways, what to you is true leadership and how do you implement it? I believe
 
Rosalind Panda  55:06
that true leadership starts with leading yourself first, before even leading others, positive, we as a human being up can lead ourselves the best. And thinking about having perseverance, patience, persistence, endurance, and having a schedule a discipline and how to how to let our inner creator think, and lead ourselves the best. I believe that’s the true leadership. Because if a person when a person, they know how to lead themselves, despite all the chaos, all the stress all the negative environment that can impact their mind state, when they can control they can control or have a wonderful balance in their mind. That time, they they impact others who are in the surrounding, and eventually, they’re the world. They create a wonderful ripple Ripple Effect in their own consciousness, which is self consciousness. And when they end afterwards, they impact their community, where they are serving in their day to day life, and in the world, because everything that through leadership reflects through their actions, their words, their, what they’re doing in their activities, their intentions. So I believe leading yourself leading ourselves first, as a human being. That’s true leadership. It doesn’t matter what role you have, what authority you have, what designation you have. But having that mind state, to be happy, to be content, to be, to be the own driving force in your own life is very crucial.
 
Michael Hingson  57:07
How do you want people to remember you, you, you interact with a lot of people, and then you go on and do other things? And so on? What, what do you want people to remember about you? And what kind of effect do you want to have on the world?
 
Rosalind Panda  57:22
Yeah, that’s a wonderful question. So when, when I want people to remember me, I believe they will remember me as an artist who love to express herself on the canvas or no matter what medium I’m out writing a book, or speaking or writing. This, remember is me as a creator, who unleashes its own power to create, create that ripple effect to impact other people’s lives. I empower others, I inspire others to be their best Excel and improve in their lives. And as a good leader, who knows how to lead myself first in my life, and impacting others as well and empowering others with optimistic approach with a positive approach. And just a positive person, a optimistic person, a true leader, now, who serves the humanity serves the community and believes in giving back to the community through every action. That’s what I want and innovator, technology innovator, a futuristic, a visionary, a thought leader, a change maker, who brings wonderful, huge difference into her life, which is me. And also every every person surrounding me, eventually the world.
 
Michael Hingson  58:47
So let me ask you this question. We call this the unstoppable mindset podcast. What does unstoppable mindset mean to you? And what advice do you have for people listening to our episode today?
 
Rosalind Panda  59:04
Unstoppable means no matter what happens in your life, what circumstance or you go through, nobody can break your spirit. You are the person who is leading yourself throughout every situation. And you as a human being, you totally understand the journey of life. Right? We are all doing a journey. We’re all experiencing a journey from starting point A to Z, which is from birth to until a we breed, the last on Earth. Unstoppable means you don’t stop at any point, no external factor. No external circumstance can break your spirit. No matter what you go through. Everything is an experience. When the experiences leaves a bitter taste in your mouth, you’re learning a lesson and grow through it, evolve through it. But never stop, or never get stuck. You are more than your mind. Right? You’re more, you’re more than your mind. Because the mind is going to play all the games and all the voices, it will start talking to you to stop you from doing some things to stop you from being the leader in your own life. But unstoppable means you are more than your mind. You are controlling your mind. You are the master, you are the captain of your own ship of life. So that’s what unstoppable things.
 
Michael Hingson  1:00:47
And the biggest lesson there is that it really is your choice and you don’t need to let go different kinds of circumstances. Stop your spirit. You may not have control over everything that happens to you. But you always have control over how you mentally deal with it.
 
Rosalind Panda  1:01:07
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Because as human beings, we all go through so many unwanted circumstances. Nobody’s just playing on a better process, right? Life is a journey filled with bitter taste, bitter experience, wonderful experience, happy, sad experiences. But all that matters is we don’t change we don’t become a negative person. After any experience. We don’t just generalize our experiences or people or what we see or experience or not. Because every person is different. Every person is unique. Every experience is unique. So we have to grow through it. No matter what we go through. We spread the wonderful fragrance. In the end, we understand that life is filled with wonderful experiences. We stay optimistic and positive and emit the wonderful energy into the world.
 
Michael Hingson  1:02:11
Oh, Rosalind Panda, this has been wonderful if people want to reach out to you learn more about what you do, maybe in gauge your services or learn about your books and so on. How do they do that?
 
Rosalind Panda  1:02:24
Absolutely. So my website is Rosalindpanda.com that Yeah, absolutely. R O S A L I N D. And my last name is Panda P A N D A.com. Rosalindpanda.com is my website where my socials are also there. Everything is linked to my website, I have my Rosalindarts.com which lists out all my paintings, people can read about it and Rosalinditservices.com is we are where we help clients with their web it all the web technology, related needs and requirements and Rosalynn construction is also where we help clients with their construction businesses through by token is the post utility based crypto ecosystem, all these businesses are all aligned and mentioned inside the Rosalindpanda.com website, all integrated with the my follow other websites in Facebook. I am known by Rosalind Panda, you can search me and also connect with me on I’m also in LinkedIn, Rosalind Panda, and on Instagram. I am Rosalind Panda five. The number 5 Rosalind Panda five, and on Twitter. It is my handle is Rosa Jubilee, which is R O S A J U B L E E. That’s my Twitter handle. And also I’m on Tik Tok, which is Rosalind Panda one. So yeah, so I’m on the social media as well, people can connect with me and work with me. I’m not I would love to help others.
 
Michael Hingson  1:04:25
I hope people will do that. And we definitely will stay in touch as well. So thank you for being here. And thank you for listening. I hope that you’ve enjoyed this. I hope that you’ve learned from it I have, and I really appreciate the opportunity to talk with Rosalind but also to make this podcast, something for all of us to listen to and grow from. If you’d like to comment on today’s podcast, please feel free to email me at Michaelhi at accessibe A C C E S S I B E.com. I’m, or go to my podcast page, Michael hingson.com/podcast. And please, wherever you’re listening to this, give us a five star rating. We do appreciate your ratings and your comments very well. So once again, Rosalind Thank you very much for being here. And we look forward to hearing more from you and about you in the future and definitely let us know any way we can help.
 
Rosalind Panda  1:05:25
Thank you so much, Michael. I thoroughly enjoyed it. It was a pleasure and looking forward to many more.
 
Michael Hingson  1:05:35
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